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  • Ludwina Dautovic, Founder and CEO of The Room Change, in conversation with K.J. Matthews, Hollywood and Entertainment Reporter.

    The affect of Covid-19 across businesses globally is massive. The film, TV and entertainment industry has been hit hard too.
    While we will be relying on entertainment through our time of isolation, K.J. Matthews talks about how it will affect the industry and what it means for the future of entertainment.


    In this episode we discuss:

    • Impact of Covid-19 on the Film, TV and Entertainment Industry
    • How long will they'll be holding off on production
    • How the unions are supporting crews and below the line industries
    • The shutting down of concerts, movie theatres and comedy shows
    • Impact on the insurance companies
    • Reliance on entertainment while we're in isolation
    • Impact on our internet service providers with the increase of data usage
    • What to watch while you're in isolation


    About KJ Matthews

    K.J. Matthews is an Emmy Award-winning journalist and producer who has worked in the TV and entertainment industry for nearly two decades. She started her career as a TV reporter and news producer working for CBS, ABC, and FOX-TV affiliates nationwide for a number of years.

    After leaving local television, she moved up to CNN. There she covered the media and entertainment industry for a decade. Her work appeared on CNN, CNN International, HLN and CNN digital. K.J. was a major force in the development and overall entertainment coverage including the network’s Oscar Awards, Grammy Awards and Golden Globes coverage. She wrote and produced for AC 360, The Situation Room, New Day, CNN Tonight with Don Lemon, Erin Burnett OutFront, CNN Newsroom and Morning Express with Robin Meade. One of her highlights at CNN was working on the the award-winning primetime special, CNN Heroes: An All-Star Tribute and winning a Peabody Award.

    Besides her local and national TV and digital experience, she’s also worked on the Emmy award-winning syndicated entertainment show, Extra.

    Currently she’s a senior contributor to BBC World Service Radio, BBC World News TV, BBC 5 Radio Live, Germany’s DW English TV Network, and Australia’s ABC Network’s morning show, Breakfast where she writes, produces, and offers her expertise on the latest in the media and entertainment industry.

    Her communication and leadership skills also keep her busy as a public speaker. She’s spoken to audiences at the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts & Sciences, the Producers Guild of America, the Turner Classic Movie Network, Digital Hollywood Media + Tech Summit, the USC Annenberg School, Emerson College, Women in Travel Summit, Away Travel event, the Miami Film Festival, Paramount Studios, the National Association of Latino Independent Producers, and the African-American Film Critics Association.

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    Ludwina Dautovic
    Welcome to Xchange Revolution conversations with change makers who are revolutionizing how we live, work and play. Brought to you by The Room Xchange  a platform that is changing the way people live by using resources that already exist -  time and spare bedrooms. Hi I'm Ludwina Dautovic and thank you for joining XchangeRevolution, the podcast that is inspiring us all to change how we live, work or play. I'm coming to you from Melbourne, Australia. So wherever you are in the world listening to this, I welcome you to the show. We really encourage you to head over to your favorite podcast directory and subscribe, rate and review the show.  Once you've had a listen, you can also find all of our show notes at Xchange with the letter X - XchangeRevolution.com, and please also join our Facebook group at Xchange Revolution. Today I'm having a conversation with K J. Matthews. KJ is an entertainment reporter in Hollywood. I've known KJ for some time, and we've had an interview on a previous podcast. I wanted to bring KJ on the show to get her insight on the impact of the Corona virus on the film and television industry. I know that this particular industry is not considered an essential service. But when you think about what's going to happen in the next few weeks or time that we have this lock down or isolation period, it's going to become pretty essential. Covid-19 has hit this industry pretty hard, and KJ has a lot of insights that she'll be sharing with us today. But before we get into that, I just wanted to take this moment to remind ourselves of what's important as we go through this lock down phase. And as people are isolated, it's an opportunity for us to connect with ourselves, to connect deeply with our loved ones and to be grateful for what we actually to have. Please remember those who are not as fortunate as you, who might be in lock down or isolated on their own. The elderly and the frail. Just be mindful of the people in your own backyard and in your community who you can help. Now we'd like to hear from you. We'd like to know how you're dealing with this very challenging time. Please head over to our Facebook page and join the conversation. K. J. Matthews - thank you so much for joining us on Xchange Revolution.


    K.J. Matthews
    Thank you for having me.


    Ludwina Dautovic
    I'm so excited to be having a conversation with you. Now, just for the listeners, I have interviewed you once before, Many years ago. I think it was about eight years ago. Back on my very first podcast show, we were introduced by Chris Adams. A big shout out to Chris for introducing us. I'm so grateful for you coming on the show today.


    K.J. Matthews
    Thank you for having me. It's been a while.


    Ludwina Dautovic
    It has been a long while. A long while now. We've been having son chats lightly just between the two of us about the impact of the Corona virus on the film and entertainment industry. And I'm really looking forward to talking about that and getting your insights. But before we do, how about you just share with our listeners a little bit about yourself about your journey in the entertainment industry and what you're doing right now?


    K.J. Matthews
    Sure. I'm from Los Angeles and I'm entertainment junkie. In short, basically, I'm a journalist. I'm a film and TV journalist. I've worked for big organizations like CNN, BBC, ABC, NBC and I basically cover the film industry here in the media industry have been doing that for about two decades. So that's me in a nutshell.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Yeah. Now you have to actually give us a little bit of insight on some of the top celebrities that you've interviewed.

    K.J. Matthews
    Oh God, I always like when people ask me that question is so funny. I always said, Tell me your favorite artists and I probably have already interviewed them. I've interviewed everyone from Brad Pitt,  Angelina Jolie, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez. See Robert DeNiro Just about everyone, really.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Oh, my God. I saw in your show reel that you actually got to speak to Oprah on the red carpet!

    K.J. Matthews
    Oh, my God, I don't think I washed my hands back then. It was years ago. Nowadays with Covid-19 I  wouldn't get away with that right!

    Ludwina Dautovic
    I know. But I was just like 'Oh my gosh!' Oprah's my hero.

    K.J. Matthews
    Ah yes, we love her here. I was star struck. I think I messed up my words. I was so nervous because I think every journalist in the world aspires to be like her. You know, we all want to be like Oprah.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, I know, I know. Okay. All right, we've got that out of the way. So let's get serious now. So the impact of Corona virus is really massive. You know, I'm sitting here at home still trying to digest the impact of it, not just on a personal level, but also on a professional level. We're all in lock down in my mind today, I'm kind of imagining it like we're being preparing for the storm and the storm's just yes. And you know, there's going to be a ripple effect of this. It's massive that we have got no idea, really correct, because we're still making decisions on a direct isis. But in your area victim, the taste. I want to know. What are you saying right now? In terms of the impact that this is having on the film and TV industry,

    K.J. Matthews
    it's really like Armageddon. We have not seen anything like this ever in Hollywood. They're saying that when it's all said and done by the end of this year, Hollywood will probably lose. I would say about $20 billion. 20 billion is what they're estimating. $12 billion because of Cove it 19 or Corona virus. Every television show, every talk show, every movie, every reality TV show has been shut down. No one is working in Hollywood. It is like a ghost town. The only people you see out here are people who are working in the health care industry, people who are covering the news, you know, news journalists and really people that work at pharmacies. That's really it. I mean, it's it's decimated Hollywood,

    Ludwina Dautovic
    and it's something that globally we're feeling the impact of that, you know? I mean, we live in such a small world now. It's not like Hollywood's over there. And, you know, I'm in Melbourne, Australia. For those who only seeing internationally, you know it's hit, it's everywhere. Throughout this conversation with you, I've actually got a few of our listeners who have thrown in questions, and one of them was actually Chris Adams, who introduced us. He actually wanted to know if this was a question I was gonna ask us. Well, you know, we've had Tom Hanks in Idris Elba as two examples come out publicly and say that they have the coded 19 virus. I'm Chris out, you know? What do you say? The impact of that having on the industry?

    K.J. Matthews
    Oh, it's bam it, I mean, as you know, mentioning Tom Hanks. He was just released from the hospital, so it looks like he's on the men, which is great. But every day there's a new artist that's been diagnosed with it. Today we found another professional basketball player that now has it. We know Idris Elba. Hasn't we know there's another model who used to be in James Bond film? An actress? She has it. It doesn't seem to be letting up. And I think what's so bad is that many people are carrying this and they don't have any symptoms. That's the problem is that it's passed on, and you don't have to have the cost or the dry throat or the fever. There are people who don't have any of those symptoms who have been working in Hollywood, and they pass it on. Just recently, three streaming networks. Apple TV. Who Lou and Netflix just released a statement saying that they found out that people who were working in their creative departments for the streaming networks have tested positive for the Corona virus. So now everyone's working from home, and they're having to make sure that the facilities are thoroughly clean before they resume work. And the biggest problem Llewyn it really is here in Hollywood is that no one knows when everybody will be able to go to work. That's the problem. We don't know when we can say, OK, it's safe for you to go back and start making movies, okay? It's safe for you to go back and start taping TV shows. There's no date. We don't know when this will end, and that's the biggest problem. Do you know an

    Ludwina Dautovic
    interesting point? I was thinking of it. You were talking. Then, when I mention your address in Tom, there's a real leveling of humanity that's happening now because this virus is not discriminatory at all. It doesn't matter whether you're rich or poor, famous or not, from a terrible country or a you know, a country like a trail of the U. S. None of us have any kind of special sort of immunity to this. It really is a leveling of humanity, isn't it?

    K.J. Matthews
    It absolutely is. And that's what's so troubling. You know, it's already as we saw what happened in Italy, what happened in China. What's happening in Europe Now it's spreading to Africa. Every single continent has been affected by this every single industry. And I'm sure you've read the news about so many various companies laying off from all the restaurants to airlines, the cruise industry. Everyone's being affected by this from your small hourly worker up to your executive that runs the cruise industry. It really is in discriminatory.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Another question from Jordan daughter. Because my son, actually, he wanted me to ask you, You know what's happening in terms of that sort of secondary entry or below the line, Then one of the unions doing for the cruise and the people that you know and not working directly on Set held. I'm here. That's a

    K.J. Matthews
    very, very, very good question. And today I'm so happy you asked that question. Actually, all of the union's meaning. The Directors Guild, the Writers Guild, the Actors Guild and the below the line, people, which is an i a T S C. Which handles the makeup hair technician. The set designers all of them are being urged to file all sorts of notices that they would like to receive some sort of fund. They have funds set aside at all of these unions for emergency situations. Now one of the problems is, though there's no fun for a pandemic because this has never happened before. So now what you have is them having to dip into all these other emergency funds that they have four actors and directors and filmmakers and funneling that money towards the below the line people to help them. So there is help. The problem is how much hope is out there. There's enough to get them started probably four months or maybe a month and 1/2. But if this thing goes on for two or three or four months, then they're gonna have to reconvene because I don't think that there's any union in town. They could support people that were out of work for three months at a time. That would just be to Mammoth, and they're not sure what they're going to do pass a month, so it's still a work in progress. You know, they're still trying to figure out how long people are gonna be out of work and how long they can cover them. It looks like for now, though, if you're a member of the union, no matter who you are, you will receive some sort of funding or help financial aid. They could possibly get you through a month. Anything more than that, you just really have to wait and see what happens.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Just thinking like you're not having a conversation about something that we cannot predict at all. So our questions may be relevant. May not. So I'm not sure of minds in that league. But, you know, as I was thinking then in terms of insurance like that's they usually where we head to in cases like this. But at some point, that's gonna be a tap that can no longer be right on. When we give, you know

    K.J. Matthews
    I'm so happy you asked that question. It's a valid question. You know, there are a number of concerts and major entertainment festivals that have been cancer, and I'm sure you've heard about it. What is happening now is that a lot of insurance companies are refusing to pay up. In other words, what normally happens is a lot of the insurance companies are stating that they don't want to pay up for canceled concerts, major concerts. What normally happens is an artist says they're going to go on a tour for concert if they get sick. There's something in insurance that make sure that people bought tickets are compensated. However, a lot of the contracts for major concerts for musicians don't include pandemics. That's the problem. So a lot of the artists are now on the hook for doing one of two things. Either they pay back all the fans that bought tickets or they reschedule it and delay it. And that way they don't have to pay anybody back anything. They just reschedule the dates. But the insurance companies are saying, whatever the artist choose, they're not willing to pay or refund anyone for buying tickets for concerts that were canceled because of the Corona virus. So it's a sticky situation. It's very sticky. It feels

    Ludwina Dautovic
    like that things were gonna need to be restructured somehow after these luck, I've been having these kind of thoughts around, you know, getting back to basics where so far removed from simplicity of life. We were just watching on the news this morning here in Australia. KJ about Cole's is one of our biggest supermarket chains here, and they're limiting the morning, I think, from seven or eight o'clock or something, making that available for elderly and people who were disabled to shop, filled with people that were lining up to get in after that. And then nothing was left on the shells. I was thinking how much we've bean trained or, as consumers were so reliant on. These big organizations say something as simple as food and supplies that now we're not able to rely on them. It's almost like they've got us hooked, and now they're not able to provide all supply. But they've removed us from the smaller supply chains, have the local grocers or the local fruit veg people, and now it's like with something like this is happening. They can't cough up and corralled us. It's a it's a weed way to

    K.J. Matthews
    think, and I'm like, Hang on

    Ludwina Dautovic
    a second. That's not fair. It's like this virus is affecting us in so many ways that we're really not going to say the impact for very

    K.J. Matthews
    long. You're You're absolutely right. I'm sure you've seen the video here in Los Angeles, of all the people going to stores, trying to find toilet tissue, trying to find hand sanitizer, time to find Lysol, wipes anything and their roles and rows and rows of Justin T shelves. There's nothing
    Ludwina Dautovic
    there. Yeah, well, it's the same he KJ I mean those videos that have been released of people having fisticuffs in the supermarket, trying to get the last roll of toilet paper. But, you know, it was something like that. It's even, even if thinking that has gone so far to think that we cannot live without toilet paper, I'm going to give you an example of something that we've done. My daughter is really about living life simplistically, okay? And she Tianna, she said, Well, Mom, how about we just make a bum gun for anyone who's listening? Just look up on YouTube. So yesterday we fit it off into about toilets. Essentially, it's a deuce gun or be dia gun. So we actually have no need for toilet paper.

    K.J. Matthews
    What? Oh, my God. I have a lot of things I've never had. No need for toilet. I I

    Ludwina Dautovic
    have no need for it. And to be honest, you know, it's a very personal thing to state on the podcast. But I don't think that I will ever use toilet paper again in my house. I have a need for it now. I'm going to write a post about that and pop it on the room exchange dot com to sort of show how we've done that. But it's really interesting again how much we've become reliant on living in a particular way because of convenience. And I think that's something that's really going to change. We need to get back to basics. I'm gonna have to take that getting back to basics and encourage people to start to sort of talk about how we're going to do that. So let's move on K J. I want to talk about how, with its locked down that's happening, some in Australia, they're encouraging what they're calling quote unquote or hashtag social distancing. And there you people not going to work working from home that saying two weeks, the heaven look down the schools Yet because of the role on impact that that can have in terms of, you know, parents needing to then stayed home and remove about 30% of the you know, people who work in the medical industry. So it's an issue there, but anyway, we're on lock down for least two weeks. Let's call it a month. What's the first thing people are going to do?

    K.J. Matthews
    Watch television, watch television? They spend a lot of time on their computer. It's either television or your laptop. It's one of the other. That's it. So what streaming polices and in cable outlets and are seeing is an increase in subscribers. Netflix who? Lou Amazon. More people are logging on and subscribing to those because they're just watching television and they're putting their kids in front of the television since they have nothing else to do. And we're hearing that school's probably won't be back in session before the summer because by the time they go back to school, it will be time for the summer. So, yes, everybody is spending a lot of time on their computer and watching television,

    Ludwina Dautovic
    right? So then they're going to be relying on the film and television industry and I just wanna sort of pay some attention to that, because your industry this industry is being hit really hard. Yet at a time when these viruses hitting people worldwide really had, we're going to be relying on the entertainment industry to entertain us while we're going through this process. I think there needs to be some awareness, awesome empathy and understanding off how much we're relying on them. Yet the industry is being impacted. Infrared

    K.J. Matthews
    correct. So you know, the biggest sign that you'll probably see is that you will not see New Seasons and new movies for a long time because production has been halted. Movie release dates that should be happening in April, May June, July will probably cut off. So there will be a lot of movies that will have delayed releases. And there will be a lot of TV shows that are supposed to have new seasons that start maybe September or in the fall somewhere here for us. You won't see that you'll be watching Gary runs probably until the end of the year. To be honest with you, I don't see any New Seasons or new episodes happening until the end of the year, I would guess, because there's too many productions that have been halted and there's just not enough time to make up those shows. So get used to watching reruns, I guess, is what I'm saying. Old shows you're gonna love it. So how will

    Ludwina Dautovic
    the industry know when it's safe for actors to go back to acting?

    K.J. Matthews
    You know, the industry is taking its edict from the Centers for Disease Control here in the U. S. They're really just logging on to various health sites and looking at the numbers every day. Do we have more cases of the virus or less cases of the virus? Do we have any deaths? That's what we're looking for. We need it to go down, And so that's the reason why they've given us a 14 day stay indoors to see if we can get this thing under control and see if the number of people that are being diagnosed goes down. And I think when it gets down to a very, very, very low level, then no feel comfortable going back out. I've also told that warm weather might help the situation, so I'm thinking maybe sometime in the summer which is probably three or four months away. So it could be awhile. It really is going to be awhile. We, like I said, have to get used to just seeing old TV shows and the lack of sports, which is going to be very hard for some people. So many of us are sports junkies and are used to seeing live sporting events. And we're not seeing that now.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Yeah, and it's my husband would say, life sports events is a great way to stop wars in countries. Think he's right. These people connected. Yet I know I've got a couple of sessions at a base around my own curiosity. So do you think this will change how actors a comfortable

    K.J. Matthews
    acting in the future? Do you think it

    Ludwina Dautovic
    will subconsciously say, Well, look, I don't know that I want to get that intimate where I'm, you know, exchanging saliva side through kissing or, you know, getting close to side with intimate scenes. What do you think it's going to shift that

    K.J. Matthews
    it'll No, I don't at all. You know, the only thing that I think will really change in the future our contracts contracts because that is what affects your livelihood. That's what affects your paycheck. That's what affects how much money you're making and what happens to you when you can't work. What happens when the production is shut down through no fault of your own? How are you compensated? That's what people are talking about now and so moving forward. People will probably say, I want the word pandemic written into my contract. If there is a global pandemic, if there's some you know something that strikes that has nothing to do with me that's affecting on a worldwide are global level. How will I be compensated if I can't work? That's what people are looking at. So it's a contract thing that people want to know moving forward because that's how most people are suffering here, trying to figure out how they're going to make ends meet if they can't work until September, are told or to the end of the year.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    That's really interesting, because the knock on effect of the impact on the insurance companies is going to have something to do with that contract negotiation, right?

    K.J. Matthews
    Oh, sure, because you know that contracts always had excluding pandemics, and I think most people were okay with that. Most musicians were okay. You don't include a pandemic. That's fine. You know why they said that? Because we never had a pandemic that. So now that we've had a pandemic and we know that it's possible, I guarantee you most musicians will want something moving forward in their contracts when they're touring. That says, you know, my fans or tickets will be refunded in the event of a global pandemic. That's an option. Now, I think, moving forward Mmm. So do you think they'll

    Ludwina Dautovic
    be an influx in online events are neither. Deep in Alba's of circles, all the business events have been canceled for the next few months on this seems to be this. Insurgents of online events happening now in the beast in Space. Do you think that the entertainment industry will kind of find a way to innovate through this time and create some kind of online? Why is staying connected? The defense?

    K.J. Matthews
    Yes. You know, uh, singer John Legend was doing something like that today. He was entertaining. I think you'll see a lot more people taking to social media and taking to YouTube and just kind of blasting stuff from their living room or their bedroom and just entertaining people that way. But I also think that's temporary, you know, and I think that if you're a major celebrity, you could probably get away with that. I don't think that's something that's going to be a permanent move that we're making. I think when it comes to virtual meetings and virtual conferences and virtual concerts, it's just a Plan B. It doesn't have the same synergy that a concert does, and so I don't know if that's something that would really, I don't know. I just don't see that growing or that becoming the norm. I think people still love that in person, contact and love being in a live conflict. There's nothing like being in a live conference, especially a live concert, especially a musician that you've been waiting to see. I mean, can you imagine having Beyonce and a virtual concert? I don't think so.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Ah yeah, Look, I don't think it will be something that will replace it ongoing, but I certainly think there's room for innovation in terms of how these performers can stay connected with their fans, even if it's just sticking the camera on themselves and having a chat or right. You know, just doing some kind of like Hegel performance or something that they can share with their audience just to sort of help through it. I think we'll start seeing things like that more coming through. I met when I was watching Idris Elba, you know, share. He's applied the other day about him having the crying of Iris. It was really lovely to see that, and I was really impressed with Tom and his wife, Tom Hanks and his wife for, you know, being so open about it. I think it really shows great global citizenship when the that responsible on this sort of setting. It's standard, I think, in terms of you know how we should all be responding to that.

    K.J. Matthews
    I think it's definitely great. I do love to see actors and musicians talk to their fans, whether it be Instagram or Twitter. Whenever they're reacting and interacting with their fans, fans will love it, you know, So they're always going to be celebrities that are very good, with social media and love reaching out on and they go live on Mr Graham Live and then there's some celebrities that don't We will always love that, but I think that's something that a lot of celebrities were already doing. I mean, certain celebrities that were social media junkies. It didn't take hold in 19 for them to talk to their fans. They were already doing it. I think you'll probably see nearer of them. Do it now because they can't work. So this is the only option that they have to stay connected to their fans. I also think you'll see a lot more podcasts, you know?

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Oh, yeah, absolutely. I'm so glad I decided this podcast six weeks ago. How could not have predicted how, you know, great. It would have been for me to be able to connect with people in this way.

    K.J. Matthews
    No, you'll definitely see a lot more podcasts. You're in great company.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    So let's talk about so we're in lock down next two weeks. At least let's say it's a bit longer, but let's just talk two weeks. What are you thinking of? Some good shows that we could get out teeth stuck into? I'm going to kick it off with saying that morning wars is amazing. On Apple TV, you have to watch that That is just a key Kaz show.

    K.J. Matthews
    Yes, it is a kick ass show. Everyone loves that. You know, there are so many shows out there. I'm really like a lot of unscripted shows. And I'm so angry I'm not able to see ah, lot of the unscripted stuff and the talk shows. But I love that Netflix comedy. Grace and Frankie. I don't know if you ever watch that, Frank. I know it doesn't look that the good fight is another one. Do you ever watch that? Oh,

    Ludwina Dautovic
    much. Little. Yet I

    K.J. Matthews
    have a really great shows. Of course, you can never get enough of the Handmaid's Tale, even if you have to start from season one again and watch it all the way through. That's a good drama. That's

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Did I end up finishing their recent

    K.J. Matthews
    legal. He's just finished it, like, literally just finished before they shut down production. So that's an option.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Ah, that's yeah, yeah. And also, Westworld said, seasons also come out as well. Hasn't that's finished?

    K.J. Matthews
    Absolutely, absolutely. But I will say for the reality TV show junkies were in trouble because they stopped filming pretty much every reality show. And remember They're only like one or two weeks behind, so you don't have a whole season of that. So you're pretty much out of luck on a lot of those things as well as a lot of the live talk shows that we watch here like The Ellen DeGeneres Show, the Kelly Clarkson show. You know a lot of those morning shows. They're just our afternoon shows. Rather, talk shows aren't taping in front of live audiences anymore, and some of them have just stopped taping all together. So that's hard to finding out. You know what you're watching, but a lot of it's being replaced. Bye. Just news new shows that were only on for maybe two hours and now on for four or five hours. You know they're filling the void because we all want to know what's the latest what's happening. So has turned into just a kind of a 24 7 news cycle, whether you like it or not. Well,

    Ludwina Dautovic
    it might be a good time for people just to hatch tag, get back to basics, and I think it's a part of that is, you know, conversation, communication, connection. I know without family we've got both of that adult Children back at home at the moment. And thankfully, I'm so glad that here, But you know, we're looking at ways that we can connect together in a more intimate way and strengthen our relationships apart from also watching stuff online. So I think that you know, any kind of message here is really about that. You know, the room exchange is about changing the way that we live. This podcast is about changing the way we live, work and play. And you know, if we can just take this time to step back and take some time out for ourselves and for our immediate love ones that were confined with, I think that can only but make a difference in the lives of everyone.

    K.J. Matthews
    Absolutely. The best thing is that we're all at home with one another, and that's a positive thing. I know that a lot of people say that's a positive, and that's a negative, depending on if you like your family or not, you're in close quarters with them more hours than you want to be, But it is nice you get to reconnect with them and really think about what's important I mean, this virus is really made. People just kind of take stock of their life and think about how they're living and how they want to live and what's really important. I mean, I know I I've spent a couple of sleepless nights just thinking in a way that I've never thought before. You know, just about life in general. You know, I've never had anything like this. No one has ever said I had to stay indoors for 14 days to save my life. So it's quite incredible.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Yeah. Yeah. And for those who are not fortunate enough to have company in the home, just make sure that you do stay connected with people outside. And thankfully, we do have digital and internet now where we can do that. So, just before we wrap up K. J, I want to ask you a question that I asked all of the guests on their show. So what's something that you're doing right now that is changing the way that you leave with you

    K.J. Matthews
    would not believe this. I thought about that question. You will not believe this. I'm a TV journalist. And guess what? I stopped watching TV. Can you believe it? I know it's a Sikh mystique myself. You know, I get my news from my smartphone and from my laptop. But I would tell you months ago I used to have three TV's in my house. If I was in the kitchen, I turned on the television. If I was in the bedroom, I turned on the television. If I was in my living room, I turned on the television every room. I wouldn't you. I had a remote control. I have not touched a remote control in months. No TV. I get my information from my smart phone, so I don't have all that buzzing. And it's amazing the kind of deep thinking that you're doing when you're not constantly absorbing noise in every single room you go into. It's amazing. Ah, thank you

    Ludwina Dautovic
    so much for sharing that. It's really interesting. You say it because I've just realized that I don't watch TV anymore, either, in the traditional sense of you know, the TV in the living room and you know the remote control and just watching. Whatever Eddie is, it comes on. I do watch online TV, but I can control what I do watch and when I watch it. But we don't has in heaven for years had the TV on in the background. In our house, we have music, right? But not the TV. And I can understand what you're saying in removing the noise. It's just with Mom body recently with noise and messages.

    K.J. Matthews
    You're absolutely right. I pretty much am plugged into meditation APS, which I love or positive motivational podcasts. I try to keep it positive. I really, really do. And I just find when I get up and I meditate or possibly parade and put on a really positive podcast, it really changes my day. And I love that.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Head Spice. I love hid spice limit their great one. Absolutely. And inside too.

    K.J. Matthews
    I use that.

    Ludwina Dautovic
    I like it when they head. Space does the global sort of group meditation. So you could be meditating with people around the world to say

    K.J. Matthews
    absolutely. Do I love that too?

    Ludwina Dautovic
    Fantastic. So thank you so much before we go, how about you tell us how people can connect with you? This is your chance to primary you.

    K.J. Matthews
    Absolutely. You'll find me on Instagram as well as Twitter K J Matthews TV. That's where you'll find me

    Ludwina Dautovic
    nice and easy, and we'll have the links to that in natural notes as well. So KJ Thank you so much for joining us today. It's bean insightful. I've learned a lot from you, and it's also being good to just share some of my thoughts and have somebody who's an expert in this particular industry be able to speak to that. For further information about a show and linked to your favorite podcast directory, hit over to exchange revolution dot com. While you're there, please subscribe right and review the show. To continue the conversation, join our Facebook Group Exchange Revolution. If you'd like to change the way you live, register at the room exchange dot com.